{"id":1179089,"date":"2025-05-08T12:13:14","date_gmt":"2025-05-08T19:13:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/?p=1179089"},"modified":"2025-05-08T17:26:07","modified_gmt":"2025-05-09T00:26:07","slug":"joe-list-tom-dustin-portrait-of-a-comedian","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/joe-list-tom-dustin-portrait-of-a-comedian\/","title":{"rendered":"Joe List on How Tom Dustin: Portrait of a Comedian Is a Love Letter \u2014 and Maybe an Intervention"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Joe List and Tom Dustin both started out as Boston-area comedians more than 20 years ago. They quickly became friends, drinking buddies and roommates, with a shared dream of moving to New York City to pursue comedy greatness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>List followed through on the dream. He got sober, scored a slew of TV appearances and standup specials, and started a thriving podcast, <em>Tuesdays With Stories<\/em>, with his friend and fellow comedian Mark Normand. He&#8217;s also just directed his first film \u2014 a documentary \u2014 about his old friend. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Tom Dustin: Portrait of a Comedian<\/em> tracks Dustin&#8217;s decision to keep drinking and to relocate to Key West, Florida. He runs a comedy club where he does what he loves and regularly kills with audiences. But he&#8217;s not well known outside of Key West, sometimes struggles financially, and wonders if quitting booze would be good for his mental health. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The film starts off by making clear that Dustin is very, very funny. He kills onstage, and feels loose and vulnerable and spontaneous. Offstage he&#8217;s even more likable \u2014 fun, open, philosophical. As you watch, you find yourself wondering: Could Tom Dustin be a star?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The documentary makes you root hard for Dustin, and feel happy for his many sources of happiness. But it also makes you wonder if he could be happier. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I did have this fantasy of ending the movie with a little title that would say, &#8216;At the time of release, Tom&#8217;s been sober for, you know, 248 days,&#8217; or something like that,&#8221; says List. &#8220;I still hope that he does get sober, obviously.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As he made the film, he hoped that watching it might make Dustin decide to quit drinking. But mostly, List says, &#8220;I just wanted it be sort of a love letter to him, which to me, is what an intervention should be.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We talked with Joe List for the <em>MovieMaker <\/em>podcast about Tom Dustin, YouTube vs. theaters, and how you can be an offensive comedian and good liberal at the same time. You can listen <a href=\"https:\/\/moviemaker.simplecast.com\/episodes\/joe-list-tom-dustin-portrait-of-a-comedian-1Y0dHMLH\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">wherever you get your podcasts<\/a>, or \u2014 why not? \u2014 right here:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"iframe-container\"><iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Joe List (Tom Dustin: Portrait of a Comedian)\" style=\"border-radius: 12px\" width=\"100%\" height=\"152\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/4HI8KR8k2Mq43tAHOj2CBF?utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Joe List on the Martin Scorsese Film That Inspired <em>Tom Dustin: Portrait of a Comedian<\/em><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<div class=\"iframe-container\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tom Dustin: Portrait of a Comedian [Trailer]\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/xxaqQS7vnuI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The documentary was shot over three-and-a-half-days in Key West, a freespirited town that feels like a Jimmy Buffett song. One mystery of the film is whether a guy who passed by on a bike actually <em>is<\/em> Jimmy Buffett. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But for all the sun-kissed tropical fantasies in Buffett&#8217;s signature song, &#8220;Margaritaville,&#8221; the chorus is about wasting away.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;If I was gonna relapse, I would go directly to Key West and meet up with Tom,&#8221; says List, who, seconds later, promises that he won&#8217;t do that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dustin is beloved by fellow comedians, in part for being so honest about exploring darkness. One section of the film deals with his rough childhood, which included his father&#8217;s bouts with mental illness. At one point, his father was beaten with a tire iron in a violent misunderstanding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There&#8217;s sometimes a sense that sensitive subjects should be sidestepped, to protect the victims. But the victims don&#8217;t always agree. Sometimes, they want to laugh. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When List showed the film to comedians, they laughed at the tire-iron story. No one in Dustin&#8217;s family did \u2014 except his dad.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;His dad just thought that was really funny thing to re-live,&#8221; says List.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>List opened for Louis CK at the latter&#8217;s peak, before his career was stunted by revelations of sexual misconduct you&#8217;ve probably heard about. List has stuck by his friend, and starred in his 2022 film <em>The Fourth of July<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But when it came time to direct his own film, List turned to one of his favorite filmmakers, Martin Scorsese, for inspiration. Specifically Scorsese&#8217;s <em>American Boy<\/em>, about his friend Steven Prince, who played the small part ofthe gun salesman Easy Andy in <em>Taxi Driver<\/em>. The director&#8217;s approach was just to roll the cameras as friends and family told their stories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Also Read:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/anxiety-club-standup-comedy-doc-wendy-lobel\/\">Anxiety Club Explores the Surprising Dynamics Between Anxiety and Standup Comedy<\/a><br><br>List took the same approach, and thinks Dustin&#8217;s openness \u2014 especially when drinking \u2014 made the film more honest. Alcohol, List notes, &#8220;sort of accelerates emotion.&#8221; But Dustin has some of his best moments while sober.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dustin seems very moved in the film that someone cares enough to tell his story.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;He says at one point, he&#8217;s like, crying, and he&#8217;s like, &#8216;It&#8217;s the booze, you know?&#8217; And I don&#8217;t know,&#8221; says List. &#8220;If he wasn&#8217;t drinking, he may not have been as open and as raw.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Tom Dustin Reacts to Joe List&#8217;s Film About Him<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-medium_large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2512\" height=\"1676\" src=\"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/cdn-cgi\/image\/width=788,height=526,fit=crop,quality=80,format=auto,onerror=redirect,metadata=none\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/12.11.21_JoeList___0400.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1179097\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/12.11.21_JoeList___0400.jpg 2512w, https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/12.11.21_JoeList___0400-1180x787.jpg 1180w, https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/12.11.21_JoeList___0400-428x286.jpg 428w, https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/12.11.21_JoeList___0400-788x526.jpg 788w, https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/12.11.21_JoeList___0400-1536x1025.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.moviemaker.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/12.11.21_JoeList___0400-2048x1366.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 2512px) 100vw, 2512px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Joe List. Photo by Matthew Salacuse<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Though List made clear that he was the focus of the film, sometimes Dustin couldn&#8217;t believe it. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;We actually cut a lot of the times that he couldn&#8217;t wrap his head around it. And I think he was just so touched by the fact that somebody was going to make a movie about him, and so that gave us a lot of emotion and feeling too,&#8221; adds List. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re talking to him as a friend, but also, as a filmmaker, you&#8217;re like, &#8216;This is awesome. We&#8217;re getting great stuff.'&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dustin&#8217;s emotionality and charm are among the reasons List thinks he would thrive in sobriety: 12-step programs, he notes, are built around storytelling and sharing. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;I think that he would really, really do great in sobriety, because he&#8217;s such a social guy,&#8221; says List. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One connection that improved because of the film is the one between Dustin and List. After years living far apart \u2014 List still lives in New York \u2014 they&#8217;re talking more than ever, thanks to the film. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8220;So it kind of got us back together. It worked out,&#8221; List says.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p> Tom Dustin: Portrait of a Comedian <em>is now in theaters.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Main image: Tom Dustin, left, and Joe List. 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